Who enforces the laws?
Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2005 6:29 pm
What would this man say about indecent material?
Does anyone find this image offensive?
I find Mussolini offensive, just like I find Hitler offensive--but should that simple fact (that people find it offensive) be enough to take something down?
Where do the first amendment and the rules of the board differ? Topless Salma is OK because technically it's not pornographic? I'm sure Pat will come up with something else that's on the border...further testing the rules.
Or I'll come up with something else (like Rasputin's Pickled Cock).
As for "work safe", apparently "FUCK" is ok, but scientific examples are not?
I think drawing the lines isn't so obvious as to say "everyone knows what's pornographic" (take a closer look at this JPEG).
This is turning out to be a rather interesting discussion.
What's Rebecca's response? I'm curious also about what she thinks, even though she might not feel that way (I know how I feel...I'm eager to learn what people feel, even though this might not be readily apparent at first).
Now as for the "own body parts" rule, I do have a macro lens.... ;-}
Jeff's rule is a good start, but "objectionable material" needs to be defined. It's not good enough (for Rebecca, Treefrog, perhaps others) to loosely define such a guideline. For instance, are men's nipples OK but not women's? That's a double standard if I ever heard one. Can you tell the difference at 10x magnification? I'm sure we could tell the difference by taste.
Whenever there are rules, there will always be rule-breakers. No matter how carefully we define the boundaries, someone will help us refine that line (thanks, Pat!). Indeed, it would seem that the gratification of overstepping the limits far exceeds the gratification of writing something decent and profound.
I'm not sure where this board is going, but going from Salame to Barney still has me perplexed -- I wonder if this mere distinction is what sets the righteous from the wrongdoers.
I could refrain from being nice. I could perhaps turn off images altogether and see what result ensues. However, I don't find that challenging or even enlightening--these are some of the major reasons why I Don't Do That [tm]. Maybe the right or wrong is irrelevant -- baser aspects of humanity like curiosity are far more poignant than morality, in my limited opinion.
So, take a look at that Ashcroft pic again and sometime I'll show you the "enhanced" version. It is another kind of artistic masterpiece (though certainly not like the Mona Lisa, but I never liked that painting anyways...I'm more of a Kandinsky fan).
-Phrazz
P.S.: Thanks for protecting me from myself!
Does anyone find this image offensive?
I find Mussolini offensive, just like I find Hitler offensive--but should that simple fact (that people find it offensive) be enough to take something down?
Where do the first amendment and the rules of the board differ? Topless Salma is OK because technically it's not pornographic? I'm sure Pat will come up with something else that's on the border...further testing the rules.
Or I'll come up with something else (like Rasputin's Pickled Cock).
As for "work safe", apparently "FUCK" is ok, but scientific examples are not?
I think drawing the lines isn't so obvious as to say "everyone knows what's pornographic" (take a closer look at this JPEG).
This is turning out to be a rather interesting discussion.
What's Rebecca's response? I'm curious also about what she thinks, even though she might not feel that way (I know how I feel...I'm eager to learn what people feel, even though this might not be readily apparent at first).
Now as for the "own body parts" rule, I do have a macro lens.... ;-}
Jeff's rule is a good start, but "objectionable material" needs to be defined. It's not good enough (for Rebecca, Treefrog, perhaps others) to loosely define such a guideline. For instance, are men's nipples OK but not women's? That's a double standard if I ever heard one. Can you tell the difference at 10x magnification? I'm sure we could tell the difference by taste.
Whenever there are rules, there will always be rule-breakers. No matter how carefully we define the boundaries, someone will help us refine that line (thanks, Pat!). Indeed, it would seem that the gratification of overstepping the limits far exceeds the gratification of writing something decent and profound.
I'm not sure where this board is going, but going from Salame to Barney still has me perplexed -- I wonder if this mere distinction is what sets the righteous from the wrongdoers.
I could refrain from being nice. I could perhaps turn off images altogether and see what result ensues. However, I don't find that challenging or even enlightening--these are some of the major reasons why I Don't Do That [tm]. Maybe the right or wrong is irrelevant -- baser aspects of humanity like curiosity are far more poignant than morality, in my limited opinion.
So, take a look at that Ashcroft pic again and sometime I'll show you the "enhanced" version. It is another kind of artistic masterpiece (though certainly not like the Mona Lisa, but I never liked that painting anyways...I'm more of a Kandinsky fan).
-Phrazz
P.S.: Thanks for protecting me from myself!